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    Teh Moniez baby! Dub Turbo UPDATES.

    Phew!

    8 Sales pages with pro copy, variations of long vs. short, flash vs. no flash, 3 exits vs. 1, price points, and a sh!t load of test clicks later (and a month of daily daunting and rigorous analytics at EACH unique/path taken/length stayed/exit points, etc.)… << This, I’m proud to say is the most split testing and analysis I’ve done on a product, ever! *We even split tested our pay page customization across 4 pages and various titling, as well as testimonials vs none, beat examples/amount of them vs. none... Crazy obsessive behavior to some, goldmining to others

    REMINDER TO VENDORS: You guys MUST test and convert, then split test your sales pages/market positioning until it’s maximized before recruiting, this way you’ll get amazing natural growth vs. constant aff rollover….

    Ok onto the product,

    Only one other like it on CB and we mash it regarding features and end product deliverables. We’re ready and armed/dangerous with tested and proven creatives, we’ve been live for a month asking affiliates NOT to promote just yet, but they’re still promoting anyway and grav is rising naturally < very good indicator that this is going to be a long term earner.


    Click Here To View The Site >>


    Click Here To Get Affiliate Materials >>


    Click Here To Read The Developers Diary << Really cool case study we did


    Click Here To View Our Blog >> (still getting it setup/starting to dump content)…


    Screenies taken from the first few tests:



    Pays 70% and there are tons of upsells/more sounds/beats for sale etc. once they are in the members area so you can earn a lot per customer over the 60 day cookie.

    We’ve been waiting patiently and constantly giving special care to how to roll this out and when… So seeing as we’re already live and earning and so are affiliates, we can’t really take the site back down to announce an official launch/blast date….

    Instead we’re going to use May 4th as our official release in our media blitz that will happen a few days before, during, and after. << If you’re ranking by then for any of our terms and or the brand, you stand to make nice coin from our efforts and overflow alone.

    Only things we do NOT want on this rollout:

    • NO posting fake .exe’s on download sites or ‘serials, patch, activator, crack, free download, free trial’ << NONE of that, we’ve already banned 2 people and we’re only in pre-launch/post test…

    • NO ‘Is DUBturbo a scam? Find out here’ << NONE of that either please. We don’t want to see the web plagued with fake downloads or fake scam warnings, these 2 people already caused some damage with their doings I can only imagine if we let everyone run wild with this.

    • The BEST way to sell this, is to ACTUALLY SELL IT. There are MANY usp’s, our product outperforms the competitors by a mile in MANY ways you can highlight, it compares to the pro gear costing thousands, it has functions and features ALL OVER IT that you can highlight and write about/promote/use as hooks etc. It really does ‘sell’ and offer customer satisfaction above and beyond anything else Chris or I have made to date. Most times you’ll find that vendors focus on retention making sure people don’t refund, with this we’ve positioned ourselves VERY well and over deliver for this price point quite a lot so retention and customer support are actually minimal (less worry for you regarding refunds).


    Chris and I will be available to help you guys as much as we can, and the aff area will continue to grow with great pre-sell materials for you guys to implement easily.

    Only a handful of aff’s even know about this from the vip area of the NC forum, and we’ve tried to prevent grav from growing for a change while we test so people’s campaigns don’t interfere with ours.. . … Now that we’re ready and have a final date for the blitz, it’s GAME ON for everyone.

    Thanks for reading I look forward to making everyone some great money and a long healthy campaign with this!

    Norb & Chris



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    All I can say is that I think this is the highest quality product out of Norb's headquarters so far. Fantastic product (yes I've tried the demo you shared with us), even better landing page, video and affiliate materials, great work with the split testing, 70% commission... Me likey!
    Good luck Norb & Chris!
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    Default Re: Dub Turbo Now In Official Pre-Release.

    Hey Norb and Chris,

    You may think this is a crazy question, however do you have a trial version available?

    One thing I can kinda do half decently is prepare promo vids and I'd like to sink my second 30-day challenge teeth into your product.

    Looks impressive I must say

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    *thanks Khan! This has taken the most out of me to date.

    *Phuzzy I'm PM'ing you with a trial.

    Great rollout so far for us we're quite pleased!!



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    Default Re: Dub Turbo Now In Official Pre-Release.

    Hey guys,

    Thanks for your kind words!

    Yep has taken a lot of juice this one! Phew!

    At some points during development even before testing didn't think we would get there but glad we kept on going!

    Honestly you could create a whole product on "Testing a niche" the amount of testing this baby has had!

    Well worth it though!

    If anyone needs anything give me a shout?

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    Default Re: Dub Turbo Now In Official Pre-Release.

    Whats the official launch date?

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    Default Re: Dub Turbo Now In Official Pre-Release.

    You can promote now it's open for business - And MAY 4th is our 'public release' where we'll be hammering a media blitz out the few days before during and after.



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    Default Re: Dub Turbo Now In Official Pre-Release.

    Just a quick heads up, you should probably fix this image:
    http://www.dubturbo.com/images/ui_export.jpg
    "44.1 STERO"

    Also, out of curiosity... does the "As seen on clickbank, youtube, digg, etc." actually help with establishing credibility? Maybe I just don't see things like an average joe anymore.

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    Default Re: Dub Turbo Now In Official Pre-Release.

    I must ask, who are you using for dubturbo's hosting? its lightning at my end...

    I'm in the process of applying the 5r system to my affiliate attempts.. dubturbo is on my todo list

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    Quote Originally Posted by FlapJack View Post
    Just a quick heads up, you should probably fix this image:
    http://www.dubturbo.com/images/ui_export.jpg
    "44.1 STERO"

    Also, out of curiosity... does the "As seen on clickbank, youtube, digg, etc." actually help with establishing credibility? Maybe I just don't see things like an average joe anymore.
    *Muchos - Fixed

    Yes adding any logo's you can that are tier-1 can help you big time. And we're not lying either, not to be mistaken with 'seen on tv' - this is just us advertising and appearing on all listed sites - a bit gray but still ok in my books. It gets scary when you see people adding fake Oprah/Dr.Oz endorsements on stuff, and THAT will get you sued fast, but appearing on portals and listing them is ok.

    Quote Originally Posted by Phuzzy View Post
    I must ask, who are you using for dubturbo's hosting? its lightning at my end...

    I'm in the process of applying the 5r system to my affiliate attempts.. dubturbo is on my todo list
    I use Cheap Reseller Hosting, Affordable reseller hosting, Quality reseller hosting, Reseller program, Cpanel reseller hosting, Host reseller and have a vps, they also just switched to new faster systems so I'm quite happy actually, and yeah fastest out of all three of my servers for rich media stuff (hence other stuff but you don't notice until you hit bigger files).

    Phuz I'd like to take a moment to say congrats too - you're speelining through this stuff it's nice to see Look forward to seeing what/how you do with dubT.



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    Default Re: Dub Turbo Now In Official Pre-Release.

    Thanks a lot for your congrats, it means alot

    I am known as somewhat of the accelerated learner, and I like to hit the ground with what I've got. I guess thats from the years of study, training and teaching... Something I learnt a long time ago is the quickest way to master material is to teach it. If you can teach it, you've got it!

    The 30 Day Challenge is going to be interesting for me as i'm going to go on a tangent with video promotion instead of just article building (and all the other stuff of course). My last career had me talking all day so it's something I can do in my sleep hehe.

    I'm pulling dubT apart from a psychological point and plan to develop a message to market match that should pull results.

    As for those that did the "X is a scam" thing... they have more than likely lapped up one of the droppings from a certain ex-blackhat guru that has his crap all over the internet. Personally I think whilst it will get attention from those who are unsure, it does nothing positive for overall branding, recognition and sales. I mean there are people still saying Bill Gates is the antichrist... doesn't mean people pay beneficial attention to it...

    thanks for the tip on scala, I use hostgator, bluehost and justhost and not sure if its my connection but they all seem kinda quirky most the time...

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    Default Re: Dub Turbo Now In Official Pre-Release.

    Wow this is a quality product, I created a review site on these beating making software applications at one point (Beat Software Review - Make Beats & Produce Music on your Computer!) and this site looks to have the potential to top all of those!
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    Default Re: Dub Turbo Now In Official Pre-Release.

    I'm going to be building a niche site to promote this for sure. Looks like an awesome product to promote. I'm not the best at keyword research - I use exact match on the keyword tool and the search numbers come way down. Do I need to take these numbers with a grain of salt and do I need to use other tools to get some more numbers? What's a minimum search number you like to go for when doing keyword targeted sites?

    Also if you can offer any tips on building up keyword targeted blogs, that would be great. What I've done in the past is target just 1 keyword with it in the url and all that. How would I take a small wordpress site like this and get it to rank for several other keywords? I can write content all day, but I'm pretty bad at link building.

    Thanks in advance and hoping to get this down soon.
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    Default Re: Dub Turbo Now In Official Pre-Release.

    Quote Originally Posted by JeffT View Post
    I'm going to be building a niche site to promote this for sure. Looks like an awesome product to promote. I'm not the best at keyword research - I use exact match on the keyword tool and the search numbers come way down. Do I need to take these numbers with a grain of salt and do I need to use other tools to get some more numbers? What's a minimum search number you like to go for when doing keyword targeted sites?

    Also if you can offer any tips on building up keyword targeted blogs, that would be great. What I've done in the past is target just 1 keyword with it in the url and all that. How would I take a small wordpress site like this and get it to rank for several other keywords? I can write content all day, but I'm pretty bad at link building.

    Thanks in advance and hoping to get this down soon.
    If targeting one keyword only, then use exact match as that is the keyword you want to rank for. The higher the amount of exact match searches, the better it is if you can rank for it... although there is likely to be more competition and more authority sites when the exact match searches are above 100 per day (3000 per month) as that is the figure most "Guru's" teach their students (To aim for keywords with at least 100 searches per day).

    As for building up a blog to rank for one keyword, you normally need more than one page and you don't want each page sounding exactly the same. So... you can look at broad match figures to determine whether or not it is worth trying to tap into that broader market or not.

    This will mean you can target other similar keywords and can offer readers a variety of content without repeating the same content on different pages. However, you should also make use of internal linking to create at least one anchor link text back to your home page with the exact match keyword you want to rank for. This means each new (broad match) post you make on your blog, you create a new (relevant) link to the main keyword you want to rank for.

    In this scenario, if using wordpress, you will likely need to have a static homepage with latest posts appearing in the sidebar rather than displaying summaries on the home page.
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    Default Re: Dub Turbo Now In Official Pre-Release.

    Ok so I just launched my site for this product and found a pretty good keyword that has a little bit of competition, but should be something I can hit the first page for in a month or so (hopefully).

    In the past for blogs, I've never done the static page. I usually set the blog up to display 5 posts and then teasers for the rest of them (I use thesis theme).

    Is a static page a better approach for SEO purposes or does the blog method do just fine?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JeffT View Post
    Ok so I just launched my site for this product and found a pretty good keyword that has a little bit of competition, but should be something I can hit the first page for in a month or so (hopefully).

    In the past for blogs, I've never done the static page. I usually set the blog up to display 5 posts and then teasers for the rest of them (I use thesis theme).

    Is a static page a better approach for SEO purposes or does the blog method do just fine?
    If you want your home page to rank for a specific phrase it is better as a static page. However, you can also add a latest post section to the home page so that each of the new posts get a link from the home page. This can appear above or below the main content... linking to inner pages with more relevant posts on specific topics and subtopics.
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    Default Re: Dub Turbo Now In Official Pre-Release.

    ** I've made a few new layouts for beats you can use in your presells, check it out:



    or



    Also updated 3 new videos you guys can use on your video campaigns, find everything on the aff page >>

    Here's also a quick screenshot of the last few days re stats. I hate how a few affiliates can send 10,000 PPV hits and throw your whole charting/avg's off but whatever, those that can read/analyze the charts well see what's what...



    Gravity is almost at 30 now


    Cheers guys.
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    That is not a bad conversion rate at all, other than the PPV guy haha. Really hoping to get my site ranking well in the next couple of months. Also going to be doing PPC. Is it converting decently via direct-linking?

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    It's converting direct but pre-sell is working much better. I'm noticing people in our logs that go through 3-4 affiliates sometimes before they buy - so make sure everyone's promo is nice and detailed/personalized to a good one to one read.

    Today is a proud day = we're at 40 Gravity, may fluctuate however overall we've been somewhat quiet until recently about recruiting and pushing it (the header here at the forum and some other smaller campaigns), and it's starting to convert better all around - we feel it's due to there finally being a decent amount of awareness for the brand and enough promo that it's giving people enough info and trust to purchase without question.

    Fickle niche as it is, there's quite a few people now doing great with their daily sales volume and others popping out of nowhere so keep up the great work.

    I'm just about to do a bunch of video tutorials as well so will give everyone a heads when they are available.

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    Default Re: Dub Turbo Release.

    This is great news. Means it's time to start bidding on Dub Turbo keywords

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    Hey Sysop, is there a way to import dubturbo tunes into itunes?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sippy View Post
    Hey Sysop, is there a way to import dubturbo tunes into itunes?
    Yup.

    In Dub, click the big orange 'Export' button in the menu.

    Then in iTunes, File > Add to Library.

    Find the file and voila

    I hope that helps.

    PS.. If you need to convert it for like a CD or anything..

    Do it in iTunes: iTunes: How to convert a song to a different file format

    Or online: Media Convert - free and on line - convert and split sound, ringtones, images, docs -


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    Could I just copy and paste the C: drive?

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    Default Re: Dub Turbo Release.

    You can also convert it with Audio from DVD Audio File Converter for Windows or Mac. first - I believe iTunes takes MP3's, and we export at 44.1 .wav (broadcast) so you'll have to convert it...



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    Quote Originally Posted by SYSOP View Post
    You can also convert it with Audio from DVD Audio File Converter for Windows or Mac. first - I believe iTunes takes MP3's, and we export at 44.1 .wav (broadcast) so you'll have to convert it...
    iTunes should conv it to AAC auto when you add it to the library


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    Awesome support guys, your rock, thanks a bunch to both of you.

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    Cheers,

    Grav just bumped up again - to 45 rounded - we tweaked the sales page very subtlely and the pay page graphic header, and conversions have increased a touch... Yesterday was our best day ever yet re sales volume and conv., it's amazing watching gravity/sales grow slowly over time instead of watching it fade after a big 'launch - normalize' period on a timed product. Solid proof that this isn't going anywhere!!



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    Quote Originally Posted by SYSOP View Post
    Cheers,

    Grav just bumped up again - to 45 rounded - we tweaked the sales page very subtlely and the pay page graphic header, and conversions have increased a touch... Yesterday was our best day ever yet re sales volume and conv., it's amazing watching gravity/sales grow slowly over time instead of watching it fade after a big 'launch - normalize' period on a timed product. Solid proof that this isn't going anywhere!!
    Congrats norbmeister

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    Thanks mate!

    Grav is now at 56.37


    Really great seeing it continue to grow naturally - we have a few tricks up our sleeve for the next phase it should improve the offer and awareness even more.



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    Quote Originally Posted by SYSOP View Post
    Thanks mate!

    Grav is now at 56.37


    Really great seeing it continue to grow naturally - we have a few tricks up our sleeve for the next phase it should improve the offer and awareness even more.
    im redooing my landing page, should hopefully be seeing many more conversions from me

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    Default Re: Dub Turbo Release.

    How are people doing with this launch?

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    UPDATE:

    We've just added a new set of promo videos and are adding 5-10 A DAY from this point forward.

    Check out the style:

    ERROR: If you can see this, then YouTube is down or you don't have Flash installed.


    ERROR: If you can see this, then YouTube is down or you don't have Flash installed.


    ERROR: If you can see this, then YouTube is down or you don't have Flash installed.




    Feel free to grab any of the .flv's off our youtube channel and re-upload them, watermark them, whatever... OR check out the videos section on the aff page to download in bulk.

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    Thanks a bunch Sysop

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    cheers norb

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    UPDATE:

    All Affiliates - This Monday July 26th, we're going to be running a 48 hour $7 power sale promo. This will only last until Tuesday 11:59pm EST - normal pricing will be reinstated as of midnight.

    Anyone that's doing PPC may or may not want to pause their campaigns - we literally saw 1:5 - 1:15 conversions during our tests, and even though the front end is only $7 there are still upsells and beats/etc. in the backend that are not discounted so this may well work in your favor.

    We're doing this in an effort to spread the awareness and to create a 48hr viral campaign re 'tell your friends - it's only $7 until Tuesday night'.

    This also gives you guys an opportunity to promote this 48hr blitz as well, and believe me once the promo is done, the traffic will continue to flood in if not grow, and we'll still have incentive for Wednesday's 'you just missed it' campaign (which we'll hold onto for now but your customers will love it trust me).

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    Genuis idea norb!

    I only wish i jumped on this earlier.

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    Hi guys, more exciting news on this offer.

    1. It's still growing! Hovering between 55-60 grav but still going up!

    2. We just finished the promo and the awareness is growing as well.

    3. DUBturbo is now #3 in the MUSIC category within the marketplace, we're getting close to the top spot and feel we'll be there soon.

    4. IMPORTANT: We've added an AMAZING 7 day follow up course/opt-in. I know some of you have your reservations about 'building our list', however we would a) encourage YOU to opt-in so you can see how interactive and safe way we've structured the 7 day follow up (wicked educational sessions with links to video pages outlining each lesson...), and b) Know that this effort is going to help with retention A LOT! Here's an example HERE >>

    5. We now pay the most from the beatmakers on CB by 10%, and we have both backend upsells AND one click upsells coming up shortly.

    6. Our affiliate area has been revamped! - CHECK IT OUT >>

    7. New lander is available as well for download and customization - CHECK IT OUT >> Download the .zip in the landing pages section of our affiliate area (link in #6 above).

    8 We have plans to introduce new pricing for commercial licenses and other upsells that will be announced within a few weeks once we're finished the split testing and implement in the live site.

    9. DUBturbo has hit the industry pretty hard and fast - the music industry has a love/hate outlook on us because it's not cubase/protools level but it does a LOT of the same for $30 instead of mid $xxx - they see it as dilution - here read this guys rant:

    We simply see it as spreading the joy of music. I've been producing for a dozen years, and I KNOW we're filling a huge gap. The other beat makers are one bar, online only, and use MP3's << no comparison and your customers are blindsided if they get that one first and max it out in a day...

    10. We've also integrated an in depth look at chording and patterns for our users: This helps with production quite a bit.... example:


    Chop Chop!

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    Excellent work with this, Norb! Congrats on the high gravity and success of this product!
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    ^ Thanks bro!

    Also another update for creatives: We've made a bunch of BIG postcard type graphics that are PERFECT for your landers or blogs - if this doesn't get high CTR I don't know what will!!

    Examples:





    Also added a BUNCH of new banners i.e.



    Plenty more and will be adding more every few days at DUBturbo - Affiliate Program - New Profitable Converting Product - Ground Level Partners Wanted!

    Also added a few new vids to our youtube channel - tutorial types - feel free to scrape them - http://www.youtube.com/dubturbobeats

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    Nice keep it up, can see this one doing well, any screenshots for conversions / sales to share ?

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    Yep - will post them when clickbank is back on (timing.... scheduled maintenance right now can't even log in).

    So far I'm also impressed with the refund rate (fluctuates between 3-7% since we started) .

    Screenie coming soon...



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