i gotta start CPA

[mill123]

clickbank is driving me batty.

should i start some kind of journal to get me started??

tbh i really have no idea huhuhu.

hit me up with tips!

[Vadym]

That's funny, because I'm currently writing the CPA marketing portion of the HA course, along with the others.

CPA isn't that much different from regular aff marketing. Just easier.

Instead of going:
"Please spend money on this ebook which solves all of your wildest problems and will make your life 104% better!"

You go:
"Please take this FREE TRIAL of a miracle product ENDORSED BY OPERA. Need more facts, moron? DO IT!"

[stewmath]

ive moved onto cpa myself. I got a landing page setup persueding them to take the free trial and now i just need to build traffic, somehow!

[MedicAffiliate]

Kinda off topic, but does anyone know a reliable CPA network that takes India/Indians?. I get rejected from the major networks because of the shiz my countrymen get upto <_<

Also, does anyone do ppc+cpa assuming the conversions are way better with a free trial as opposed to paying for an ebook...

[mikey1090]

I got into COPEAC without a phonecall, try there.

[mill123]

yeah im just a bit sick of all the effort that i put into CB with totally random results. and yes 98% of the products are totally bogus. huhu. i still plan on promoting CB products as they have made me a crapload of cash over the last 12 months but CPA i think is the way forward for me.

[SirKhan]

I've been working on some CPA offers lately and got 1 lead so far that is $30... wow, and that's more that I got with CB for the last 2 weeks I think I'm still new I guess but I'm already fed up with CB and their products and stuff...
So I will try CPA now and other networks.

[Allblackfan31]

Yeah my friend has been making abit of money from CPA offers, I've been trying to get my sites approved by them atm, fingers crossed!!!

[antantnz]

seems a lot of moving are moving toward CPA, i'm headed that way too ....

ALLBlackFan31 ... kiwi by any chance?

[JeremyWaller]

I've been doing CPA for the last year and made mid to high xx,xxx with it. To me, CPA is 10x easier to start in. My basic strategy is cheap traffic on the Google content network through a thin landing page to a shortform offer. Isn't too terribly difficult to push 100 leads/day through an offer. Then, once you get up around the 500/leads per day mark, CPA networks will give you ridiculous payouts. I have one offer that I'm getting a payout that is 45% higher than what the payout is listed as. CPA is a great game.

[SirKhan]

WallerBlog I was wondering when will we read about your success in the online world Awesome inspiration, and of course it's good to know that it's possible!
I set up an AdWords campaign for Resveratrol not too long ago, yes the easiest most low-competition niche lol, but I'm having some success with it, so I will definitely look into other CPA + PPC stuff soon

Do you guys think that SEO, Article Marketing and CPA can work together too? Right now I'm pumping out articles for Resv., and I'll be able to report back with my experience in a few weeks...

[mill123]

im gunna see what i can pull out of my arse in the next few weeks. stay tuned! huhuh

i might be asking several of you for tips! :P

[Ganceann]

Do you guys think that SEO, Article Marketing and CPA can work together too? Right now I'm pumping out articles for Resv., and I'll be able to report back with my experience in a few weeks...

SEO, Article Marketing and CPA can work together quite well... as for CPA offers to have any success they need to attract real visitors who take the offer up - either email submit, zip submit or sign up for a free trial or low introductory price offer.

There is a member on this forum who started with ClickBank but quickly moved into CPA because he got a phone call from a CPA network (he had applied and forgot about it until they called him - if I remember). After they called him he moved into CPA using only free promotional methods and still did better and more consistent than for ClickBank offers.

The main thing people should bear in mind is that ClickBank doesn't really have any pre-conditions for entry into their network and is therefore along the easiest and quickest ways to promote products in a trustworthy network (where you will get paid if you meet the payout conditions). CPA is better overall, but ClickBank is extremely useful for new affiliate marketers to understand what it takes to get sales and traffic to their sites or pages.

Once you have some good method set up on how to do basic SEO and get targeted traffic, then it is much easier to get accepted into CPA networks by being able to demonstrate knowledge of how lead generation works and being able to show some quality landing pages if required.

I have also been looking towards CPA as well as that is where most people seem to go towards when they have targeted lists for each niche... so my advice is once you have done the basics with ClickBank and built up a targeted opt-in list, you might as well look towards getting into some CPA networks and finding suitable offers for your lists.

Naturally, promoting to a list only is not sustainable long-term as you can't just bombard them with marketing messages... so building up sites around the CPA offers will also help attract new people to your list and also help with additional sales. You could almost say it is just applying the basics of internet marketing by diversifying your income stream (clickbank, email lists and CPA offers).

Kinda off topic, but does anyone know a reliable CPA network that takes India/Indians?. I get rejected from the major networks because of the shiz my countrymen get upto <_<

Also, does anyone do ppc+cpa assuming the conversions are way better with a free trial as opposed to paying for an ebook...

Maybe a suggestion for you Athma.M is to team up with someone in USA or another country and work together on CPA promotions. I am not saying it is the ideal situation, but it is something to consider and can benefit both people. The old saying, "A problem shared is a problem halved" springs to mind... your problem is you aren't able to get into a CPA network while another persons problem might be they can't get enough leads/signups on offers to hit regular payouts.

By working together it will overcome both problems and will benefit both people.

[stewmath]

im a member of around 14 cpa networks, im currently working on a cpa website for some free trial stuff but building traffic is always my problem. i got my access to unlimited domain hosting, crap loads of domain names and unique article wizard subscription but im looking for someone who is good at writing to team up with.

[MedicAffiliate]

Maybe a suggestion for you Athma.M is to team up with someone in USA or another country and work together on CPA promotions. I am not saying it is the ideal situation, but it is something to consider and can benefit both people. The old saying, "A problem shared is a problem halved" springs to mind... your problem is you aren't able to get into a CPA network while another persons problem might be they can't get enough leads/signups on offers to hit regular payouts.

By working together it will overcome both problems and will benefit both people.

That again brings up the issue of not many people trusting Indians with online income...plus I'd have to put myself at the mercy of his promptness which doesn't really appeal to me. Thanks for your input, hope I'll discover soon enough what works best and until then it's CB and adsense all the way >_<

[taraff1]

I just signed up with COPEAC and they gave me no problems. And I don't even have my own domain. I was approved in less than 2 hours! May be a good CPA network to start with...

[Vadym]

Copeac shave horribly.

[mikey1090]

Better networks?

[JeremyWaller]

I've been happy with Azoogle, Neverblue and MarketLeverage, but from what I hear they may be a little more difficult to get in to.

[Vadym]

Neverblue, MarketLeverage, CxDigital and Ad4dough treat me well.

And if you get a female AM, you can flirt with them into doing pretty much whatever you need. They're flexible on breaking a lot of the rules like payment schedules and such.

[mikey1090]

cba with them ringing me up and giving me the noob treatment though. like asking how i will promote......

[MedicAffiliate]

By going onto yahoo chat and cybering with horny aholes getting them to fill out lead forms with one hand while furiously flogging the dolphin with the other.

They might approve you if only to save their sanity.

[Vadym]

By going onto yahoo chat and cybering with horny aholes getting them to fill out lead forms with one hand while furiously flogging the dolphin with the other.

They might approve you if only to save their sanity.

You go to cams.com for that. Not regular CPA networks. Not unless you're getting them to fill out a "Black Tranny Married and Bored Hotties Dating" offers, which are like $8 a pop.

[mill123]

lmao.

neverblue and marketleverage eh. i had heard good things about copeac hmm.

[Vadym]

I've never heard a positive thing being said about Copeac. Except that they have lots of offers... to eat your leads and not pay you with.

[mill123]

lol. right. scratch them off the list then huhuh

[Vadym]

For anyone who needs proof that CPA works. I know that people sometimes have a "moment of lost faith".



That's one of my networks, I started working with it late last month. I generally like to give each network 5-6 grand a month to work with. Keeps the AMs happy and giving me weekly payments.

PS - While I was writing this, I earned more.

[SirKhan]

Good for you Vadym, really. I wish you were a lot more talkative about your methods instead My best achievement with CPA so far is that I got banned my domain with Adwords...

[Vadym]

Good for you Vadym, really. I wish you were a lot more talkative about your methods instead My best achievement with CPA so far is that I got banned my domain with Adwords...

My methods require some hefty initial investments. The reason I rarely discuss them here is that rarely do people have a couple of grand to simply pay up based on trust and my results.

[SirKhan]

Well I have spent more than that in the last 2 months of my IM journey So I'm listening...

[JeremyWaller]

I'll add my motivating screenshot to the thread also.



I just started with Neverblue at the end of April. So far I've been pretty happy with them. All my revenue with Neverblue has been generated via the Google content network.

[stewmath]

i would post my cpa revenue screenshots but i dont think anyone wants to see a big fat $0.00

[david_mclean]

I hear that its hard to get approved for cpa networks, is this true? + anyone got any tips for getting approved?

[stewmath]

my tip is call them, i get accepted within minutes of sending my applications

[Vadym]

I hear that its hard to get approved for cpa networks, is this true? + anyone got any tips for getting approved?

This is only true if you're in Asia.

[mill123]

it is a pain for me cos they like to call at 3 or 4 in the morning when i cant wake up quick enough to figure out what the hell is going on.

[tgrob]

I recently was accepted into Direct Leads, Max Bounty 2.0 or whatever, Lidango, Neverblue and Market Leverage called me today, but I have no doubt I'll get into them also... Plus my friend works there...

Easiest way to get into any CPA Network is to say you plan on doing PPC and you have PPC experience. I haven't been generating much traffic to my sites yet because they are new and I've been building all the backend, however, I just tell them this:

"I worked over a year or so for other small businesses and people doing Internet Marketing, but decided to just start from scratch and do it all myself. <joking around with the person explain how you figured it would be more profitable!> I don't have many landing pages, or high sites with high traffic yet, but I don't feel I should market something incomplete or it will be a waste of time. I consider myself to be an expert in SEO with well diverse knowledge in all of Internet Marketing. I'm really anxious to get started and start building RELEVANT traffic to my sites so that YOU will receive QUALITY leads. That's the only way we both can be successful. I plan on doing PPC at some point and was actually starting keyword research on a product in another CPA network to try and find some obscure keywords that will deliver the most bang for my buck."

Basically just explain that you plan on doing PPC... that shows experience even if you dont have it...
Give them your best site even if you don't think its worthy... The guy from Neverblue interviewing me was really impressed with my websites I gave him to look at. He told me they receive hundreds to thousands of requests each week from people that have very unprofessional looking websites. Just make sure your site looks halfway decent and I'm sure they'll be okay with it.

Using the words PPC, Quality, and Relevant leads builds their confidence that you know what you're doing. That's probably the most important!

Oh and calling them first instead of waiting is always a good idea!
GL Everyone!